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“It's 1978. 20 year old Australian pilot Frederick Valentine. Valentine. I think it's Valentine. Valentine took off on a routine training flight over Bass Strait.”
“And this is already a worldview. Well, that's what gets weird when you get into the really old scripts, like the Book of Enoch. That's right. That, you know, Anna Paulina Luna, she's the one who turned me on to that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've listened to the audio book or the Book of Enoch twice now. And every time I listen to it, I'm like, what the fuck were they talking about?”
“Not today. But because it's not included in the canon. But what if it was? Right? It's included in the canon, but just not in reference to the Book of Enoch. I mean, if you go- Well, the Book of Enoch's not in the canon, but Enoch is referenced in the Bible. Absolutely. Yeah. Which is kind of nuts that you don't get the Book of Enoch.”
“was not expecting at all what I found. And what I found reinforced my own religion, my own Catholic upbringing, or self chosen upbringing.”
“There's that one, but there's also the one that, you know, Bill Cooper's book, um, behold the pale horse. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So in, Okay. So in, Behold the Pale Horse, he talks about the quiet weapons where he's talking about basically technology and how technology is going to engineer consent.”
“childhood's end, or no, it's a book, um, where, you know, he's talking about aliens where these aliens are engineering humanity through technology, through social media and things like that.”
“So that's, that's what I, that happened after American cosmic. Part of that went into encounters, but not. So what, how did they express this to you that they don't think that you should be talking about this? Well, they, they didn't express it that way.”
“Yeah, of course. Right. Which is weird that the Ethiopian Bible has that in it. They have the Book of Enoch as a part of the Ethiopian Bible. Yeah. Well, it's one of the first Bibles. It's one of the first. So Ethiopian Christianity is like one of the oldest forms of continuous Christianity.”
“gave us a King James version of the Bible red letter. I said, I want everything that Jesus said. I want to know all that he said. And I was hooked on it. So I read this thing. I read the whole thing.”
“So, his, you know, his idea... He spent, of course, his whole life studying this. And he wrote a book called Messengers of Deception. Yeah. I think I read that one. Yeah. So, you know, once you do... I read a bunch of his books. John Keel. John Keel doesn't have a good idea about these things at all.”
“No. Oh, it's called Project Beta. This is a, this is a book a friend of mine wrote about. I can't remember. Yeah. So.”
“Wonders in the Sky, all about that, stopped at, like, I think it was, like, 1860 or something like that. Right. And so, he did that. And I feel like I've done that, too. Like, I started that way, actually. And I wasn't looking for UFOs.”
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“It's 1978. 20 year old Australian pilot Frederick Valentine. Valentine. I think it's Valentine. Valentine took off on a routine training flight over Bass Strait.”
“Oh, it's called Project Beta. This is a, this is a book a friend of mine wrote about. I can't remember. Yeah. So.”
“So this was what, remember you asked me those people that I met, like after American Cosmic is published.”
“So this was studied at Duke University, the Shroud of Turin in the 1980s. And I happen to know a priest who was a graduate student there in the PhD program, and he witnessed the whole study.”
“The technique, dating 1988 radiocarbon test performed independently by labs at Oxford, Arizona, and Zurich, dated the flax to 1260 to 1390 CE with a 95% confidence, squarely in the medieval period, consistent with its documented appearance in Leary around 1355.”