The insane true story behind MTV

“I read his biography. He's my hero. And I knew all, so I studied cable. So I read about Cable Cowboys and Liberty Media Media. I studied it like crazy. I've studied you like crazy. And at the time in 2014, right around when I was starting the company, BuzzFeed was popular and Vice was popular.”

“Well, it's been great. And it's been, you know, I've summarized it all in this book, which was a lot of fun to put together, unplugged. It was good. I read it this past weekend. It was awesome. We didn't even get to it because I've seen you talk to it on some other podcasts, but like you got busted for having hundreds of pounds of pot on you.”

“It's called, and it was the first edition. What color is your parachute? You're the second successful person I've talked to in the last month that said that book changed their life. That book so changed my life. And it is a simple premise. You have a series of skills that come out of your personality and you've built them and they're transferable from one industry to another.”