“I certainly don't think the AI would have had that much to do with it. Had Annie Jacobson on the show who wrote Nuclear War, a countdown scenario, and that was a fun episode. Yeah. Well, her new one is about bioweapons. It's about collably. And she said the Russians during the 80s, when we are not working on enhancing weapons to make them”
“You inform people of these things that you really should be considering. I mean, your nuclear war book freaked a lot of people out. That we're kind of, you know, nuclear war was in the back of their mind. You know, yeah, it's a possibility. But, hey, we haven't done it.”
“We dropped a couple of bombs during the war. World War II. And that's it. We're done with that. You know, you said something to me last time we spoke about the nuclear war book that really stayed with me. And it has an interesting coda. So you were like, Annie, I couldn't read nuclear war.”
“And that was a different situation. They had read the nuclear war book. It was very impactful, Joe, in, you know, not just national circles, national national security circles, but international security circles.”
“It's equally scary in completely different ways. I think, you know, with nuclear war, the response to that was so many people calling me up and saying like, okay, I read your book, I just want to die instantly”
“Well, I came across... I came across this chart in the DoD that really freaked me out when I was reading, when I was working on nuclear war. And it's like the weapons of mass destruction, WMD, threat spectrum. And of course, nuclear weapons are like at the far end of the worst, most destructive.”
“him, I asked him to tell me he had read nuclear war, my book, nuclear war. And I said, he said, Annie, unlike nuclear war, biological warfare will be deeply nightmarish. It will be the death of government.”