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“So there are things much smaller than we are. In fact, I addressed some of that in, I wrote an alien book recently, Take Me to your Leader there's a lot in there about changing your perspective on what you might expect life forms to be like out there”
“If all schools were that, imagine how different the world would be. We can only imagine. Imagine. I have your book in front of me here. It's by the way, it's beautiful. And the title is great. It's called Take Me to Your Leader: Perspectives on Your First Alien Encounter. If you've ever wondered why there are so many UFO sightings, whether aliens might already be amongst us,”