Mentioned 2 times on 2 shows.
“And it's also, I think, Sam, who's the guy who wrote A Fighter's Heart? I love that book. Sam Shepard? Sam Shepard. He also talks about like it's like an intimate thing to spar with somebody. Like, what does he say? He's like, you're sharing bodily fluids with somebody.”
“No, yeah, no, the point was to suffer together in some way. There's a great book by a guy named Sam Sheridan called A Fighter's Heart. He's actually a Harvard grad, yeah, I think he was an art major there. His dad was a Navy SEAL, very interesting guy, and he has this joke that you know, uh, you know, that sparring is like a one-night stand or something.”