Mentioned 2 times on 1 show. Most recently heard 18/06/2026.
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“for vegans to eat shellfish. And he said, like, if you're eating clams and oysters, they're so primitive. They're more primitive than plants. He said there's more evidence that plants are conscious than there is that these shellfish are conscious.”
“Yeah. I mean, I think, yeah, plants are pretty damn smart. So. Yeah. Weirdly so. Yeah. And mussels and clams and oysters, they're not. They're sort of alive, but they don't feel pain. Yeah. And they just move.”