Butter

“inside of your gut will use that food. Let's begin with Dairy. Dariush explains why butter, cheese, and cream can all affect LDL cholesterol differently and how the membrane surrounding the droplets of milk fat may help account for some of those differences.”

“it raises LDL cholesterol, then why is it two foods that are both high in saturated fat, butter, cheese, which is a dairy product, they don't raise LDL cholesterol the same way?”

“They lower LDL cholesterol. And so cheese, for example, has a lot of this, whereas butter doesn't. In butter, you throw it away in buttermilk. That's what buttermilk is. You're throwing away this milk-fat globule membrane. So there's all these complexities. There's the multiple effects of saturated fat on factors beyond LDL cholesterol.”

“So homogenization isn't negative, but that's why you homogenize milk. In butter, to be able to make it and pack it into cubes, you have to get rid of this membrane because it'll interfere with sort of the creation of butter. And so butter actually, you lose these really powerful bioactive molecules.”

“with them. But you generally lose that. So, butter is among dairy foods, you know, probably the worst. And even butter is not that bad, which we can get into. But among the dairy foods, butter is probably the worst. And then cheese and cream and yogurt and milk still contain it.”

“the morning, or as butter that they were supposed to eat with jam and scones in the morning. It's a pretty nice trial, right? You get to have, and so the same fat, the same saturated fat, one's butter, one's cream.”

“The cream has the bioactive fatty acids we're talking about. At the end of eight weeks in a double-blind randomized controlled trial, he found that LDL cholesterol in the butter went up. All the predictable things you'd think about, all the estimates we've ever made about saturated fat being harmful often come from butter trials.”

“process foods in ways that can have unpredictable effects. And you said the butter may not be as bad as we thought as well. And why do you say that? Well, so even palmitic acid, which is kind of the signature, you know, worst worst saturated fatty acid, there, for me, the question is compared to what?”

“And so it's pretty much neutral compared to the average bad diet. That's true, but that's what people are eating. And so if somebody increases or decreases their butter intake in an average diet, it's not going to affect their cardiovascular risk very much on average. And that's been seen in many long-term observational studies.”

“unsaturated fats. But honestly, if you're going to have butter instead of white bread, which is just glucose, or butter instead of sugar or sweets or candy or other junk food, it's actually better than those things.”

“fats as much as possible. But a little bit of butter is fine. It's not that big of a deal. And it's honestly better for you than all the starch and sugar and ultra-processed foods. Yeah. And I do want to kind of circle back to that, the polyunsaturated fatty acids as well, because I think the replacement question is an important one.”

“Parkinson's disease, too, right? Talk about that. Yeah. But just to finish the animal foods. And so then you have, I think, eggs and poultry and butter are kind of next down on the list, not quite as good as the others. And then I put unprocessed red meat below that, actually.”

“There's like no calories in these foods. Now, I'm talking about not drenching them in olive oil and butter, but literally just boiling the hell out of them and having a large bowl of them. They take up a lot of volume in your stomach and they have almost no calories. You really do, because otherwise, man, the gastral distress from that would be gnarly.”

“That's what I'm saying. It tastes good and it's satiated. Try to eat a medium, plain, plain white potato. It's like, and you're eating no salt, no butter, no nothing. Right. You're like halfway through, I'm like, I'm good. I don't even know if I need to finish this. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, if you really want to keep, you know, get volume without a bunch of calories, I think”

“I feel like it's all kind of made up for entertainment, but both sides are really adamant. It's just kind of stupid. Olive oil, butter, right? Or you're the physician. Tell me, am I thinking about this wrong? I do the same. No, olive oil is the best, obviously, then small amounts of butter. I don't think large is bad in small amounts.”

“Just eat, just use olive oil. It's delicious. It's relatively inexpensive nowadays to get real olive oil. Small amounts of butter. Okay. Like, why are we even debating seed oils? It's so dumb. It's like the seed oil debate is like the fastest way to kill neurons that I'm aware of. You know, it's like so dumb.”

“So sourdough bread is great. Sourdough bread with butter is even better, if you ask me, sourdough bread with equal amounts of butter and bread, you're starting to get into problems. It's very hard for people to go from like to overeat starches unless they have a lot of fats with them or sugar with them.”

“beautiful story. And this, the sociality of mitochondria in the organism, the liver mitochondria is where ketones are made. If you eat fat, right? Avocados and oil and meat and butter and those fat molecules and go in the liver and then the mitochondria in the liver take those fat, transform them into ketones and then put the ketones into the blood.”

“And this is true, right? Well, by the way, I'm just going to say I avoid seed oils actively because I like olive oil and butter, mostly olive oil. I avoid seed oils. I don't like the way they taste. I love olive oil.”

“Barometer for what's better to use. I'm also not saying that people should avoid butter like the plague, right? So all in moderation is, is okay. Is there any reason to, I just can't find the argument for why anyone would replace olive oil with a seed oil.”

“There you go. You know, like you're not, like I basically eat the same as you, although I suppose I probably be a little high on the fat sometimes just because, I mean, I love nuts and Parmesan cheese and a little bit of butter. And some olive oil and stuff, but- Which are all good foods.”

“and which is not going to break your fasted state. Even if you put a little butter, I don't consider that as breaking a fasted state because I define fast as the endocrinology, the nutrients rather than the calories. But that's a topic for another time.”